Founders STAND UP! </br>The anti-copycat revolution starts now

Founders STAND UP!
The anti-copycat revolution starts now

Posted on August 9th 2011 by Jessica Erickson and Matthew Bostock - 177 Comments

Berlin founders, this is your time. Did you know the very first computer was invented in this city? We should be proud of that! So, why the hell was Berlin known as the copycat capital of Europe? Think for a second. How many great technology startups have we invented in the last 40 years? Not many.

People recognize us European founders as great executers, but also for not being very creative at all. All the creativity seems to be in the US right now, with companies like Apple, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Zynga, AirBnB, Dropbox and so on.

All we’ve been able to do is copy these companies and their ideas. We’ve had everything from clones of Facebook and Groupon to clones of Twitter and Airbnb. There were simple reasons for this. Entrepreneurs could simply clone an idea right from the other side of the globe and they didn’t have to go through any leaps or bounds as it had already been tried and tested elsewhere.

But this false belief was not sustainable. For some, this method did indeed make them a lot of money. Copycats were receiving investment but as time grew on many investors were less inclined to throw money at the majority of regurgitated ideas. The underlying problem still existed – the “tech scene” in Berlin had become stagnant, and many of the copycats were to blame. So that’s the history, now it’s time for change.

A new horizon, this is the era for innovation.

Before now, the whole thing was a vicious cycle. Entrepreneurs began to recreate US products, European investors funded these copycat companies and made a return, and this further influenced new entrepreneurs to do the same. The two sides were pointing the finger at each other, and in the end both parties were to blame. Investors couldn’t fund startups anymore as… well… there wasn’t any. It was just the same of the same. The tech scene here was being strangled, both in terms of money and creativity. Well, the arguement isn’t important anymore. We’re now in an era of immense innovation and, in the words of Dylan, the times they are a-changin’. Germany, and in particular Berlin Mitte, is growing organically once again – in a crazy, outside the box kinda way. Fresh ideas are now finally bringing fresh money.

“You used to bump into startups that were doing the typical German thing of building a clone. Now the whole city is one crazy startup — chaotic, unstructured and with a counter-culture vibe.” – Alex Ljung, CEO of Soundcloud

The US has always been original as it’s created some of the most influential people and companies. If you’d like some spontaneous inspiration, no doubt sitting on a bench outside the Apple campus would result in one of the best conversations of your life – with a stranger nonetheless. I can imagine the bus ride to the valley is incredibly inspirational too. Heck, Google Reader was supposedly a product of this bus ride. People there have huge companies with big ideas, like Google and Facebook, to look up to. It’s littered with likeminded people and for a long time, Berlin hasn’t had this. Luckily people in Berlin are beginning to realize the importance of community. Two American entrepreneurs, Schuyler Deerman and Travis Todd, have started making changes  - with movements such as Silicon Allee. Slowly, individuals are building an inspirational setting for us all, and guess what? We’ve now got the startups to boot.

Berlin take note, here are your role models.

The following companies are shaping the Berlin tech scene as we speak. For any budding entrepreneur or startup…. get on your bike. Use the map at the top of this post and go meet them. Seriously. If you want to know the future of Berlin, it’s in their hands. Of course, this list is alphabetically ordered ;)

6Wunderkinder is the creator of the cloud-based and platform independent productivity tool Wunderlist and is working hard on launching Wunderkit, the world’s first productivity platform.
Christian Reber @christianreber

Aka Aki is a mobile social networking site that wants to let users discover and connect with members as they go about their days.
Gabriel Yoran @gabrielberlin

Amen will be “the best place for having an opinion on the world”. Ashton Kutcher seems to agree, he recently invested in this startup that has provided very little information to the public.
Felix Petersen @fiahless

Buddy Beers enables friends to emotionalize their connections even when they’re worlds away through the oldest social/local activity, buying someone a beer in a pub. The Buddy Beers Carlsberg iPhone app launches in August, quickly followed by the Buddy Beers iPhone and Android apps.
Travis J. Todd @travisjtodd

CrowdPark is a leading developer of Social Forecasting and Social Betting Games in Europe.
Martin Frindt @frinsen

ezeep develops software, desktop apps, hardware, mobile apps and web-services to better manage printers and printing costs in the cloud.
Sascha Kellert @kellert

Gidsy is a community marketplace where people can offer and book tours and activities.
Edial Dekker @edial

Moped is a mobile app that helps you settle up with your friends using your smart phone.
Schuyler Deerman @schuylerdeerman

Readmill is an open platform for sharing what you and your friends read. It visualizes your experience around a book meaning notes, highlights and attention data.
Henrik Berggren @henrikberggren

ResearchGate is a network dedicated to science and research. Connect, collaborate and discover scientific publications, jobs and conferences.
Ijad Madisch @IjadMadisch

SoundCloud is a platform that puts your sound at the heart of communities, websites and even apps. Watch conversations, connections and social experiences happen, with your sound as the spark.
Alexander Ljung @alexanderljung

tape.tv is music television in the digital age: personal, tangible and innovative. Through its combo of smart transmission logic and exciting in-house productions, the channel offers music videos, artists and their fans a new, visual home.

txtr is an innovative company in the fast-growing digital reading market. We develop, operate and market a comprehensive solution for selling eBooks and eReading content.
Christophe Maire @christophex

Wooga develops high-quality social games on networks like Facebook.
Jens Begemanm @begemann


what others think
  • 198 days ago

    Lukas Koch says

    Nice going. Keep up like this. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Siegen.

  • 198 days ago

    Stefan says

    Very nice idea.
    Founders STAND UP!

  • 198 days ago

    Henrik Berggren says

    STAND UP!

  • 198 days ago

    Johannes says

    Gute Sache! Könntet ihr durchaus zu einer “richtigen” Initiative ausbauen, unter eigenem Dach sozusagen.

    Ciao
    Johannes

  • 198 days ago

    Ibrahim Evsan says

    Tolle Aktion Jungs :) – sehr kreativ und wichtig.
    Können wir die Idee für Köln übernehmen?

    LG
    Ibo

  • 198 days ago

    phil campbell says

    would love to be out there to soak up the berlin vibe. all power to you!

  • 198 days ago

    stefan kellner says

    As one of the founders of plazes.com (which was copied by foursquare, btw), I second this!

  • 198 days ago

    Magdalena says

    *standing up*
    Hello from another Berlin startup with original idea: Helping parents raise the multitouch generation. (With apps of course!)

  • 198 days ago

    Christian Reber says

    Thank you guys for your amazing feedback! Let us use this positive energy and create some outstanding startups!

    @Ibrahim: Absolutely, if you need any help, just drop me a line! Cologne is an amazing city too, and you really have some game-changing people around there!

  • 198 days ago

    Marcus says

    Isn´t Buddy Beers a Copycat of untappd.com ?

  • 198 days ago

    nikolas woischnik says

    I agree with your general thesis about Berlin’s historic lack of innovative startups and love the idea of the map and spontaneous drive-bys.

    However, if you research some of the startups you mentioned and put on your map, you will find that they are indeed copies of US startups.

    In the end there is a fine line between a direct copycat (i.e. CityDeal) and an adaption of an idea that was generated elsewhere, where maybe the UI is tweaked a little.

    I also believe that people over simplify the nature of copying/adapting ideas.

    Would you really like to live in a world without companies like Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Merck, BMW or JetBlue? All these companies were copying existing companies, sometimes only slightly tweaking the user experience. Just like some of the companies you present here do. Not to mention the copying of designs and concepts that takes place in fashion companies, restaurants or hotels, practically in every other industry of the world.

    Hence, IMHO one needs to have a more differentiated and subtle stance here.

  • 198 days ago

    Tobi Bauckhage says

    *standing tall*

    cool. but is this an initiative or a closed shop?

  • 198 days ago

    Gabriel Yoran says

    Great initiative – and don’t forget that there are innovative German IT companies outside Berlin, too. Let me just mention my old company Steganos.

  • 198 days ago

    Markus Möller says

    Hallo ihr Wunderkinder,

    Absolut vorbildliches Statement! Aber warum auf Berlin begrenzen? Eine deutschlandweite Wir-sind-stolz-kein-Copycat-zu-sein-Kampagne würde ich sehr begrüßen.

    Gruß vom Team Twick.it aus Siegen!

  • 198 days ago

    Max says

    finally somebody has the balls to make a statement like that. Germany was associated with all these copycats way to long. The founders of those startups only focus on quick money and fame. Berlin should be the next big City for internet and consumer electronic startups!!!

  • 198 days ago

    Matthew Bostock says

    Thanks everyone.
    It’s already a movement, and it can be so much more.

    @Nikolas – I agree, there is a fine line. But at the same time there’s a big difference between outright copying a company, and radically changing the BARE BONES of the idea. Of course, there’s hundreds of task managers available – if you take Wunderlist as an example. But the foundation of what a task manager actually is, needs to stay… it’s what you expand on that’s important. That’s where true innovative can flourish.

  • 198 days ago

    Ron says

    vorbildliche aktion! noch ist die liste nicht vollständig… ;-)

  • 198 days ago

    Travis says

    Great read! I want to give a shout out to unlike.net as another innovative company in Berlin, as they’ve helped me out personally a lot of the years.

  • 198 days ago

    nikolas woischnik says

    @Matthew: I was not referring to Wunderlist here. You guys definitely made innovative improvements to task management.

    Just think that this “fine line” deserves recognition and makes bold, absolute statements difficult. But hey, they are polarizing and if this effect is what you had in mind then it is mission accomplished!

  • 198 days ago

    Christian Reber says

    @Nikolas: It’s not really about blaming companies who work on ideas that already exist, it is more about not stealing the ideas of where your product should go. True innovation can only happen if startups have the motivation to make things better, that’s about it.

    I can only speak for us: There are a lot of productivity tools out there, but we thought if we do certain things better than other companies, we have a true chance to join this market and succeed (cloud-sync, usability & ux and cross-platform) – without copying anything. It seems to be working!

    @Tobi: I can’t really understand why your aren’t in this list, I really think we have to change this, I’m sorry ;)

    @All: Everyone is invited to join the anti-copycat revolution ;) If you want to be added to the map, or would love to start something in your city or have any good ideas for an event, just ping Jessica or me on Facebook. I’m thinking of an “anti-copycat” banner right now :)

  • 198 days ago

    Matthew Bostock says

    @Nikolas – In a way, yes! Haha. It’s great to have these kinds of comments anyway. Debate is always a catalyst for taking a fresh perspective on things.

    Thanks for your feedback Nikolas, much appreciated.

  • 198 days ago
  • 198 days ago

    nikolas woischnik says

    @Christian. Agree, and as i said to Matthew I was not referring to 6Wunderkinder here. Some other startup on the list/map however, are very similar to their US incumbents when it comes to product functionalities.

    Anyway, I don’t want to go into nitpicking here. The map and drive-by idea is wonderful! You find my blog post in response to yours on http://www.techberlin.com. See you soon i hope!

  • 198 days ago

    nikolas woischnik says

    @Matthew Yes, debate is important and I would probably argue your stance if you had taken mine :-)

  • 198 days ago

    Henrik Berggren says

    Also, funny that in the latest issue of Wired they are covering the hottest startups in European cities. The No.1 “startup” in Berlin is Team Europe. Eh, that’s a VC. And a VC that funded StudiVZ – world famous FB copycat. A big f*** MEH.

  • 198 days ago

    Matthew Bostock says

    @Henrik – Wow, interesting. Maybe this is why it’s a great thing for someone IN THE SCENE to actually comment on it – instead of allowing spectators to do so.

    You understand a lot more about a situation if you’re directly involved with it, and it seems our mentality is the same as many others… we all just needed someone to come out and say it.

    If we can fuse together like minded people with a simple blog article, imagine what we could achieve all conversing together. You never know, this might be an interesting read for the guys over at Wired ;)

  • 198 days ago

    Benjamin says

    True… let’s take the Campus Wöhlertstr: There are tons of cool startups along with 6Wunderkinder and Buddybeers: Ecogood, Friendsurance, Motivado. I like!

  • 198 days ago

    Thomas Grota says

    Good start from Berlin and the community over there. I would like to see this movement spread out through Germany. Maybe another startup company’s blog, another list another city – This should be a German issue but it needs to be driven locally I do agree. First step first – and yes, please update the list of companies along the way. They deserve to be listed as well – it is an open community anyway.

  • 198 days ago

    Tor Hauksson says

    Impressive! I´m jealous not bin ein berliner :-/

  • 197 days ago

    Tao Tao says

    Some truly deserving companies on that list but what makes up a “Berlin” startup? Founded, headquartered, office?

    And since we’re on the topic, what are good ways to meet all these innovative start-ups without having to visit each one individually? ;)
    We moved here recently and would love to get more involved in the community.

    Cheers from Schönhauser Allee 6-7

  • 197 days ago

    Jess Erickson says

    @Tao Tao – Good question! Any company (relatively new) in the Berlin area doing something innovative.

    It’s getting easier to network. There are many events and workshops you can attend every week that facilitate relationships between students, entrepreneurs, angels and VCs in the field. Here are a few great places to start:

    - Check out networking events presented by an up and coming blog Silicon Allee
    - For weekly emails and a full listing of events in Berlin, you can register with StartupDigest
    - Venues for meetups like these two: Sanktoberholz and HomeBase Lounge
    - For coworking spaces you have Betahaus, co.up coworking and C-Base

    Your greatest resource is your community, so make sure to get involved, evangelize for other startups around you and share insight with other founders and their teams. See you soon!

  • 197 days ago

    Tao Tao says

    Thanks for the tips Jess! See you around

  • 197 days ago

    Randolf says

    Kudos for this intiative!

  • 197 days ago

    Sascha Kellert says

    @henrik spot on about TEV/point nine mate

  • 197 days ago

    Robert says

    Coole Aktion! Bei Wooga und Buddybeers bin ich mir mit der Innovation aber nicht so sicher? Untappd gabs schon und Zynga auch? CrowdPark- auch
    nix neues. Finde die aufgezählten
    Beispiele zu angreifbar, den Grundgedanken aber toll!

    Rob

  • 197 days ago

    stephen mansfield says

    Nice work and thank you for the mention (ResearchGate). Berlin is the perfect place to foster creativity and innovation, a place where the ”creative class” can thrive. As the start-up scene here grows I am sure we all feel this is just the beginning!

  • 197 days ago

    Anthony Barba says

    Clone Litmus Test: Ask the founder how they came up with the idea. The revolution starts with knowing the why not only the how to…

    BTW, I’m hearing great things about ResearchGate from developers in Berlin and the Gidsy team always impresses me with their shine.

  • 197 days ago

    Daniel Kraft says

    Entrepreneurial spirit has no passport and speaks no language, it’s a believe and we just need to learn to embrace it. Love the movement Go Founders Go!

    Gruss aus den Berliner Vororten Oldenburg/New York :-) Wenn man gaaanz weit rauszoomed kann man uns auch sehen!

    PS: http://www.ifridge.com/people/danielkraft/2011/8/8/we-are-growing-join-the-team/

  • 197 days ago

    홍 지 현 says

    멋진 작품! 조은정보 주셔서 감사합니다. 좋은일을 계속 하세요.

  • 197 days ago

    Peter says

    Great post guys. But what about “barcoo” from Xberg? They are even being copied from US guys.

  • 197 days ago

    Jonathan says

    Cool list to see in Berlin. What about opening up the map instead of a picture so other startups can be added? Anyway will certainly consider making the tour ;)

  • 197 days ago

    paulm says

    @Peter youre right. To complete the list:

    Aka Aki = Copycat of Gowalla.com
    Buddybeers= Copycat of untappd.com
    Crowdpark= Crowdcast a little different
    tape.tv= Justin.tv a little different
    Wooga= Europe´s Zynga?
    Finally, Amen still has to deliver. Btw there´s no official statement by Aston Kutcher (who usually comments investments) that he supports Amen?

    I think 6Wunderkinder, SoundCloud etc are good examples. But the line has to be sharp, don´t you think so?

    paul_b_mitchell@gmail.com

  • 197 days ago

    Roberto says

    Founders stories on innovation and new ideas would be great.

    +1

  • 197 days ago

    Rene Bastijans says

    Great to see a solid start-up scene in Berlin (and in Germany for that matter) – never mind the copycats.

    Slightly off topic but are there any decent co-working spaces in Berlin that anyone can recommend? Been hearing about some places in Kreuzberg and am planning to have a look later on this month.

    Cheers

  • 197 days ago

    KirstenWinkler says

    I think, a good and much-needed initiative for the reputation of the German start-up scene. Some picks might be a little unfortunate. Coming from online education & ed-tech ResearchGate looks quite a bit like Mendely.com, to avoid the word knockoff here.

  • 197 days ago

    Rene Bastijans says

    @ pipe-dream: likewise, nice rant. I think you are missing the point here though. It’s not about comparing Berlin to Silicon Valley – the latter will always win no matter what angle you look at it from – , it’s about instilling a spirit of innovation within techies and start-up companies in Berlin (and elsewhere in Germany, hopefully).

  • 197 days ago

    Karim Bouchouchi says

    Nice one, dear Wunderkinder! Still there are so many more Wunderkinder to be found in the city… In betahaus, were I am, in offices and studios – everywhere. Are you a music producer you come to Berlin to spend a little time here. Are you into music controllers for iPhone and iPad you are definitely right in Dickes B. Like our customer from Canada … Do we really need to stress out that Berlin nowadays is a interesting city beside New York, London, Paris, Munich …?

  • 197 days ago

    superdroid says

    1) it’s not the idea, it’s all about execution
    2) mentioned companies are great startups with talented folks but most are copycats themselves (see paulm’s execellent post above)
    3) this thing is just a networking vehicle to get attention and to get to know each other and have something to talk about. but it’s so silly to distance from the clone incubators – the best people are working there

    this pseudo-revolution will get you some attention but rather damages you reputation. it has a negative, destructive touch and comes with bad vibes

    focus on your business and get in touch with real executors, wether from copycats or not

  • 197 days ago

    Laurenz (hoccer.com, hiwave.net) says

    Another example, Berlin-based Hiwave which was one of the first proximity companys entering the market 2004 long before US firms like Qwikker, Proxiblaster, or Punchkick imitated us.

  • 197 days ago
  • 197 days ago

    Vasco Sommer-Nunes says

    That´s right! Berlin is evolving from a somewhat copy-cat dominated approach and it´s wonderful being in a city that is producing change.

    There´s a start-up map here which I set up almost 2 yrs ago, it has almost 200.000 views by now and it is dependend on your collaboration! So log in to Google an add the ones that are not around! :)

    http://bit.ly/nQGp1h

  • 197 days ago

    Anthony Barba says

    @Roberto as a founder would you be willing to do a short podcast about how you started CloudSafe? It doesn’t matter to me that you’re in Hamburg since we’re all brothers (and sisters) in the struggle.

    Any founders mention here or otherwise willing to be interviewed for a podcast?

    Let’s chit chat.

  • 197 days ago

    Alexander Kluge says

    As one of the founders of contractix, another “non clone” Berlin startup, we say: thank you for this initiative!

  • 196 days ago

    Nikki says

    Ha, the irony is that Wooga is a copycat :-)

  • 196 days ago

    Marc says

    It is kind of ironic for you to write this article, the company that is entirely based on carbon copying an existing product. You know it best.

  • 195 days ago

    Stefan says

    Invidia est forma sincerest quis.

  • 195 days ago

    Greg says

    Great post ! As a European and for Germany and Berlin that I love, I must say “way to go guys !!”

    However I’m not sure that in the past still today there was such a lack of creativity and all people wanted to do is to copy. I’ve always seen Germans and French as very creative people but not money-wise.

    A success like Facebook is, is naturally inspiring and people have all sorts of ideas to try to make it better ! We got the proof with Google+ now..

    Although I do agree it was the wrong way to see it.

    Also, we don’t (in Europe) have the same type of “business angels” ready to invest millions in order to build a new Facebook everyday (like it’s happening with GroupOn at the moment).

    We simply don’t have the banks behind like them so it’s make it more difficult for us. However a good idea IS.. a good idea!

    Also an environnent like Palo Alto or the Silicone Valley are real a “live-box”, inspiring that it make people think more and try to create everyday..
    We needed that in Europe and I’m glad it’s happening in Berlin !

    I just wish you the best, or even work with you in future.. Why not ?
    And take again for your great job!

  • 195 days ago

    Nils Merker says

    Wahr gesprochen! Eine Initiative, die sehr unterstützenswert ist. Ich denke, das Problem mit der deutschen Startup-Kultur ist, dass viele Gründer nur eine Vision und Gründungsmotivation haben: Geld machen. Bei vielen amerikanischen Startups ist das anders. Natürlich wollen auch die Umsatz machen. Facebook, Google, Apple und andere zeigen in ihrer Firmenphilosophie aber, dass sie auch andere Ziele haben, beispielsweise die Vernetzung der Menschen, Katalogisierung von Information, Vereinfachung des Arbeitens mit Computern. Diese Ziele verfolgen sie derart mit Leidenschaft, dass am Ende gute Produkte rauskommen und der Umsatz sich dadurch von alleine einstellt. Deutsche Unternehmer sollten mehr Mut haben, Leidenschaft für eine klare Vision mitbringen. Dann braucht man auch nichts kopieren.

  • 195 days ago

    Tim says

    Sehr schöner und lobenswerter Artikel! Aber eine Sache sollte man dabei nicht vergessen. Es wird immer über Stolz über die “deutsche” Gründerszene gesprochen, aber was ist mit dem Stolz auf die deutsche Sprache. Die sollte dabei auch nicht zu kurz kommen. Wenn man schon Deutschland als “Anti-Copycat-Stadt” feiert, dann bitte auch auf deutsch :-) … Deutsche Jungunternehmer sollten mehr Mut zur deutschen Sprache beweisen!!! :-)

  • 195 days ago

    Sebastian says

    @Tim

    So schön die deutsche Sprache auch ist und so gerne wir diese auch sprechen, sie eignet sich nicht für ein international ausgerichtete Startup als Unternehmenssprache.

    Ungefähr die Hälfte unserer Mitarbeiter kommen aus anderen Ländern wie USA, Schweden, Australien, UK, oder Dänemark. Das setzt schon mal intern voraus dass man sich auf eine Sprache einigt. Dass dabei die Wahl auf Englisch fällt, erklärt sich von selbst.

    Für die externe Kommunikation gilt das gleiche. Wir möchten uns möglichst vielen Leuten auf der ganzen Welt mitteilen und so wenig wie möglich ausschließen. Auch dafür eignet sich Deutsch nicht wirklich. Nun könnte man hergehen und alle Inhalte sowie Blog, Twitter, Facebook, Tumbler und Instagram Posts in zweifacher Ausführung verfassen. Dies ist allerdings so ein gigantischer Aufwand, dass es für ein Startup extrem schwer ist das durchzuziehen.

    Wir versuchen alle unsere Apps in soviel Sprachen wie möglich zu lokalisieren. Aber für unsere Kommunikation, intern und extern, verwenden wir vorerst auch weiterhin nur Englisch denke ich.

    Die meisten Deutschen scheinen es ja auch ganz gut zu verstehen wie es scheint. Now, back to english ;)

    Viele Grüße,
    Sebastian

  • 195 days ago

    Kalle says

    Da feiert sich die selbsternannte SZENE mal wieder selber und merkt gar not that only oneself is appladiering LOL

  • 195 days ago

    Dominik Faber says

    Thanks for listing bookletmobile. See you at Vodafone mobile clicks competition

  • 193 days ago

    Free Mac Apps says

    This is very impressive, but to hear from a company cloning Evernote? Perhaps you use other technologies, but the idea of a multi device notepad isn’t that new and you just build a kind of me too product.

  • 193 days ago

    Mike says

    @Free Mac Apps

    Calling wunderlist an evernote copy is weird. It’s like saying a limousine is a copy of a sportscar just because it has also 4 wheels. It’s totally fine to join a certain market and launch a new product within that market that has unique features, look & feel and is improving and innovating the customer experience. There will always be overlapping features but that’s not the point they’re trying to make. It’s about taking an idea or product and copying it 1:1 without putting in any own creativity or even trying to improve or innovate.

  • 192 days ago

    Somer Brisbon says

    Hi, thanks for this comment :)

  • 192 days ago

    zielegal.de says

    Very nice initiative. Viva la revolution!

  • 191 days ago

    christian says

    Warum soll “Sponsorpay” eine Innovation sein ???? Das ist doch ein copycat aus dem Teameurope-Hause?!?

  • 190 days ago

    Esayas says

    The future of innovation is here: http://www.laliaflia.com
    Copy cats are DID. Check also: http://esayas.com/post/8211148097

    Would like to meet some people to talk about the notion of originality.

  • 186 days ago

    Dennis says

    @Sebastion, @Tim

    “Aber für unsere Kommunikation, intern und extern, verwenden wir vorerst auch weiterhin nur Englisch denke ich.”

    Sicher ist Englisch the business language weltweit und ist gerade für internationale Unternehmen notwendig, gerade in IT. Und ich denke viele verstehen auch den Blog, aber es gibt eben auch welche, die ihn nicht verstehen. So musste ich für zwei Bekannte das Manifest ins Deutsche übersetzt, weil sie es einfach nicht verstanden haben.

    Was mir auffällt ist diese Überheblichkeit, die in letzter Zeit gerade in Teilen der Wirtschaft mitschwingt. Wir sind so jung, dynamisch, flexibel wir sind so international. Wir grenzen uns ab, sind was Besseres. Ach, das gemeine Volk… Die Putzfrau, der Handwerker, die Verkäuferin zahlen aber täglich ihre Steuern. Und mit ihren Steuern wird ebenso die Infrastruktur (und somit auch Raum und Zeit) für die vielen tollen Startups in dieser großartigen Stadt zur Verfügung gestellt. Da könnte man sich zumindest die Mühe machen, einige wichtige und interessante Artikel, Meldungen (nicht alles) auf Deutsch zu veröffentlichen. Kosten… gerade wegen der neuen Technik, ist es doch noch nie so einfach wie heute in mehreren Sprachen zu verfassen. Technik sollte doch das Leben der Menschen vereinfachen. Oder sollte doch der Mensch sich der Technik anpassen… Denn sonst wäre es ja die logische Konsequenz gleich Deutsch und andere Sprachen abzuschaffen und Englisch einzuführen. Was das erst für Kosteneinsparungen bringen würde…

    Inzwischen findet aber in vielen nationalen und internationalen Institutionen und Forschungseinrichtungen zB: DLR, FAIR-Teilchenbeschleuniger, die mit dt. Steuergeldern mitfinanziert werden ein Umdenken statt und publizieren auch in deutscher Sprache bzw. übersetzen ihre Forschungsergebnisse in mehrere Sprachen.

    So, mein Senf dazu. :) Soll einfach nur so ein Gedankenanregung und Austausch sein. Wünsche den vielen tollen Startups in dieser Stadt alles Gute, weiter so und freue mich schon darauf, wie sich die Szene weiterentwickelt…

  • 184 days ago

    David says

    Ist Gidsy nicht ein Klon von skyara ?

  • 181 days ago

    dell akku says

    Great read! I want to give a shout out to unlike.net as another innovative company in Berlin, as they’ve helped me out personally a lot of the years.

  • 178 days ago

    Sarah Joy Murray says

    Hello fellow Berlin start-ups!

    Here to represent the B2B slice of the startup pie, I’d like to introduce our company, sociomantic labs. We’re serving up the most advanced display advertising technologies to the world’s biggest eCommerce companies, and our organic growth (bootstrapped from day one!) is a testament to the superior product and team that we managed to build right here in the heart of Berlin.

    Looking forward to seeing more great businesses founded and grown right here in Silicon Allee!

    Kind regards from Münztraße 19, Berlin Mitte.

    (P.S. Check out our careers page if you are interested in working at one of Berlin’s fastest-growing B2B startups ;-) http://www.sociomantic.com/careers/ )

  • 178 days ago

    Till says

    I agree with the previous comments – you guys watered the list by including companies which are obvious copycats. That shouldn’t be done if you want to make a statement.

  • 171 days ago

    Ugo says

    HEY!
    Isn’t it a whole lot more on your map since last time I visited?

    Are startups making their ideas collapse and give birth or what?

  • 170 days ago

    Chris says

    Isn’t Wunderlist just a To-Do-List Manager (yeah, its a nice one) in the end?
    So one could argue 6 Wunderkinder are copycats too.

  • 145 days ago

    Daniel says

    While I agree that they’re “copycats”, this inspires me to make a big change. Not for Berlin though, for Mexico where I live :D

  • 124 days ago

    HHvA says

    “All the creativity seems to be in the US right now, with companies like Apple, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Zynga, AirBnB, Dropbox and so on.”

    Where do you draw the line regarding your definition of “copy-cats”?!

    Very innovative PR campaign, nevertheless. ,-)

  • 124 days ago

    Frank says

    Wie originell. Der Begriff “wunder” zierte zuvor ein anderes Unternehmen. Die Idee einer ToDo-List ist weder originell noch einzigartig. Was “the world’s first productivity platform” angeht, gab ja nie zuvor Projektmanagement in der Cloud.

    “Are you gonna bark all day, or are you gonna bite?”
    (Mr. Blonde / Reservoir Dogs)

  • 124 days ago

    Hans says

    Das ist ja der Wahnsinn hier. Ihr glaubt das selber, was ihr da faselt, oder? Ihr glaubt den schmarrn, den ihr da von euch gebt. Faszinierend. Mit einem von vorne bis hinten geklauten Produkt an den Start gehen und sich hier als die größten innovatoren selbst abzufeiern ist schon gewagt. Und so tun als wäre dieses PR Gewäsch hier wichtig. Ihr werdet scheitern, da bin ich mir sicher. Schade dass dieses Marketinggeschwätz hier vom deutschen Steuerzahler mitfinanziert wird.

  • 124 days ago

    Andre says

    Awesome. Wunderlist. Copycat of a gazillion to do apps before… Nice PR. I like your design but will keep using “Things”.

  • 124 days ago

    RalfLippold says

    Copy cats – not a bad thing.
    That’s like evolution is happening, copying something that is good, and adapt to special conditions.

    Even better is creating innovation on the basis of existing models. That may sound a bit weird, especially to the money givers (as it is new, unknown (at least to large extent)).

    So why should the latter offer more future opportunities? The ones who see added value in combining existing models and add something that does not yet exist and on the other hand adds value (unexpected) to users and potential users, will be driven by their passion and the ‘Power of Pull’ in the long run!!! Thanks a lot to @jhagel, @jseelybrown, and @ottoscharmer1 :)

  • 124 days ago

    Martin says

    Sorry, aber diese Kampagne ist das lächerlichste, was ich seit langem gelesen habe… nein, eher sehr sehr traurig…

    Diese Form des Marketings ist leider sehr arm!

    Trotzdem viel Glück euch Erfindern neuer und noch NIEMALS dagewesener Dinge…

  • 124 days ago

    Jan says

    Ihr seid ganz offensichtlich Designer und keine Unternehmer. Das erinnert mich auch an die ewig tönende Endlosschleife in der Musik, über nicht-kommerziell und kommerzielle Titel.

    Ihr selbst habt die Aufgabenliste nicht erfunden, sondern seid auch “nur” eine Prozess-Innovation. Sehr gelungen, bis dato gern genutzt und kräftig weiterempfohlen. Mit diesem Vorstoß kann ich mich nicht mehr identifizieren und lösche.

    Zumindest hättet ihr diese “Idee” unter privatem Author bzw. losgelöst von eurem Unternehmen veröffentlichen können.

  • 123 days ago

    Matthias says

    Also ich bin kein Fan von reinen Copycats die einzig auf Geld-verdienen ausgelegt sind, allerdings finde ich den enorm negativen Trend in Deutschland Copycats pauschal zu verpönen und gegen diese zu hetzen traurig und unnötig. Während es in Amerika eher heißt “Oh, cooles Produkt, da hab ich so viele Ideen zu und ich finde die Intention geil, das mach ich auch, aber noch besser”, ist es in Deutschland eher “Oh, das gibts schon… na gut, dann nicht”. Ich finde die Aussage von Ralf sehr passend (“That’s like evolution is happening, copying something that is good, and adapt to special conditions.”)… Innovation entsteht oft auch durch den Wettbewerb und auf der Welt gibt es genug Bedarf und Anwendungsfälle für mehr als ein Social Network, Unterkunfts-Vermietungs-Portal und sogar Task-Management-Tool.
    In der Start-Up-Welt die ich mir wünsche quatsche ich mit meinen Wettbewerbern beim Käffchen über Diversifikation und wie wir unsere Produkte noch geiler machen!

    So… Stop this negative thinking and concentrate on fancy innovation, whether complete new or based on cool projects!

    Matthias (@matthiaslau)

  • 123 days ago

    Alex Damon says

    true words: http://www.lukaszgadowski.com/assoziale-hetzkampagne-von-6wunderkidern-in-berliner-start-up-szene (sorry WunderGuys, it´s German) …and by the way… what did Christian Reber really invented???

  • 122 days ago

    Ron says

    sind wir nun auch ein copycat für boat rentals & yacht charters mit Yachtico.com?

  • 122 days ago

    Christian says

    lächerliche Kampagne – umso lächerlicher vor dem Hintergrund, dass die to do list wohl schon vor dem wunderkind existierte.

    werde die nutzung von wunderkind ab sofort einstellen.

  • 121 days ago

    brainOnaut says

    was ich denke?
    sorry, bei soviel arroganter heuchelei bekomm ich dit kalte kotzen…
    darf ich darauf aufmerksam machen, daß das glorreichste start-up aller zeiten ziemlich schamlos bei xerox geklaut hatte & es auch bis heute nicht für nötig befunden hat, mal dezent auf diese inspiration hinzuweisen?
    wenn ihr gute produkte am start habt, super. aber bitte hört mit so nem “anti”-und “stand up”- “revolution” scheiss auf, peinlicher gehts echt nicht mehr! “revolution”! ihr habtse doch nicht mehr alle beisammen!

  • 121 days ago

    Gilbert says

    Lukasz Gadowski’s sole success results from copying Spreadshirt from Cafepress. Don’t bother.

  • 121 days ago

    Jan says

    hm…
    die ganze Copycat-Debatte ist ja gut und schön (nervt aufgrund vieler unreflektierter Meinungen langsam ein bisschen), aber die ganze Webszene sollte sich insgesamt nicht zu wichtig nehmen. Klar! Innovationen rocken! Aber so nützlich manche Apps auch sein mögen – sie haben zumeist doch nur eine Halbwertzeit von wenigen Jahren.

    Der einzige Unterschied zwischen Erfindern (den Visionären) und Copycats: Ein Copycat hat wenig bis kein Herzblut. Alles andere ist mE Kapitalismus, hüben wie drüben.

    Ich weiß übrigens nicht, warum eine solche Initiative von einem einzelnen Unternehmen lanciert wird, das damit offensichtlich eigene Interessen verfolgt?! An der Stelle von 6Wunderkinder würde ich den Schauplatz der Diskussion auf neutralen Boden verlagern – das hat sonst so ein Geschmäckle…

  • 121 days ago

    Michael Springer says

    Does Berlin get now a “pygmy-megalomania”-driven economy ?

  • 121 days ago

    Klaus Schulz says

    What a crock of Sheit. :) . No, I’m sorry, we should not get mad at each other, and go back to work….., Do some inventing, do some genius Idea flonking. Create something Original. …. Hard Eh.? – The only way, to get something original going is to sit on the Toilet, or take a Shower. That’s it. Maybe take a long Drive. Or look at some good Ideas around the World, find them and make them better. That is how everything works. You don’t have to sit there, and self-righteously point to this practice and try to make it sound negative. The Light Bulb, The Engine, Airplanes, Food, Drinks, everything we touch in life was observed and made better, more fitting for localized consumption. We have been asleep for so long, and now is our time to do something here in Europe, in Germany. Revolution, – Yes. But not against ourselves, but against other Economies and Markets that bleed us dry and pipe our Money out of here. Most all of the foreign, US influences into Germany pump our capital back over to the US. When we sell anything on eBay, all our Person to Person transaction fees go over to the US. We sold our own Ideas and inventions to the US and let them replace our Marketplaces with revenue generators… Think of everything you do all day,? From TV, online and Print consumption, all royalties and revenues go back over to the US…. We have a chance to copy what the US is doing now, and develop it for ourselves here in Germany, from Berlin. While in the US, they copy each other (West Coast to East Coast, Silicon Alley) We can look at some new and upcoming Ideas, and try to make them better, for us. For our Markets. For our Society. Look at AirBnB, How many early mistakes they made, how much better we could have been. We can localize such an Idea more rapidly into Europe, address our very different needs, use totally different payment methods that actually work in Europe, and localize more rapidly into our Languages and Culture, in which we want to do business. For example, No German would rent out his personal 20k Euro Car for 6 Bucks an Hour, on a sharing site, It is just too personal for a German. And nobody in the US would get into a stranger’s Car for a “Mitfahrgelegenheit” off a Portal. Way too dangerous in the US. People are anonymous in the US, while we know each other in Germany, or we can get a hold of each other more easily. – So, there are Ideas that work in either place, and we are free to take some good Ideas and make them BETTER. Faster, Cheaper.
    -
    Localize them and make them make sense for us Europeans. There is nothing wrong with that.
    -
    There is no “anti-copycat revolution” so you can go back to sleep now.

  • 121 days ago

    Hanns says

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  • 121 days ago

    Jeffrey Denis says

    As an entrepreneur myself, I’ve been following this conversation for quite sometime. I think what we all aim for, and what this post is trying to spur, is innovation in our businesses. Not only is this good for consumers, but it is also critical to the success of our companies.

    What we’re discussing here is the difference between companies creating products to compete in global markets with existing competitors shifting features, approaches and business strategies (monetization for instance) and companies looking at a company with a product and business model that works and creating a similar product, most of the times in regional markets – the exit strategy being getting sold to the big guys when they want to get to those local markets. Of course everything is based on something else (just watch the video REMIX on vimeo) but the difference is when we take innovative approaches, be it in business model, features, scale or anything else that makes a product unique and innovative.

    6Wunderkinder products, although not completely new and innovative, are exploring an existing market in new ways – with features, design, support, whatever.

    I don’t mind copying a service main idea, as long as you add something that makes you unique and you go face to face with the existing product. That is what all the big guys done from FB to Google to Youtube.

    The post is a nice call for action and not, I think, any direct attack. Maybe the title message could be different, but I think if you read it you get the idea.

    We all want the same, so lets stop useless discussions and get to work on our products. :)

  • 121 days ago

    Adam says

    Wow, I think this is a great topic to discuss. Obviously there are different sides to the story, but why in this day and age, not only should we be executers, but also great innovators!

  • 120 days ago

    10COM says

    “Google was too late to search
    Facebook was too late to social networking
    Apple was too late to the MP3 player

    It’s NEVER too late
    just do it better”

    It’s a good thing to provoke innovation, to create a culture where new things happen. But a lot of succesfull companies (by means of profit) where not inventors but firms that made inventions better.

    Berlin (and the EU as a whole) needs both, inventors and moneymakers.

    (Headlines copied from The Next Web http://thenextweb.com/entrepreneur/2011/10/25/its-never-too-late/ )

  • 120 days ago

    Gregor Walter says

    Put yourself on the first place of a anti-copycat movement, with a stolen idea? Wunderlist is a bad copy of much better tools, like OmniFocus, that exist since years.

  • 119 days ago

    Mazz says

    Starker Tobak, sich hierhin zu stellen gegen Copycats zu wettern, aber selbst nicht mehr als eine To Do Liste zu entwickeln. Die berechtigte Frage, wo ist bei Euch die Innovation?
    Mal abgesehen davon, Evolution muss sein, das ist überall so, und das ist besser so. copycats gibt es in den Künsten, in der Wissenschaft, bei Start-ups, überall. Die meisten von Euch gelisteten Start-ups sind doch glasklare Copycats. Und warum auch nicht? So sie denn besser sind, oder für den Markt angepasst sind, ist doch alles ok. Nicht ok ist, sich an so einer Kampagne zu beteiligen, besonders wenn man selbst abkupfert. Dönerläden müssen jetzt auch alle dicht machen?

  • 118 days ago

    Hanna Arendt says

    Wunderlist itself is a copy of many other todo task lists.
    I was using your product, but due to this shameless PR action, I have removed it from my devices forever and will warn all of my friends not to use your products.

    Such a pitty, arrogance fails allways!

  • 113 days ago

    GERstratup says

    Hi guys, I am a fan of innovation but hate infights – so why not work together instead of against eachother! Pro “Work together” revolution under http://www.gerstartup.com/2011/11/02/copycatfight-6wunderkinder-vs-copycats/ :)

  • 113 days ago

    Ricardo Sousa says

    Hey Gregor, Hanna, Mazz: although we appreciate your feedback, we think Wunderlist adds something on top of all the other to-do list apps. And that is why, in our opinion, over 1 million users chose our app to manage their daily tasks. We’re beating with all those other apps in a global scale. We believe everything is a remix of something else. But we also believe you’ve to be innovative either in features, market aproach, design or business model. Anyway what we all want is to Berlin to become a central hub for innovate, game-changing companies.

  • 112 days ago

    Oskar says

    Ihr seid so geil ;-)
    Euer ganzes Zeug habt Ihr doch aus dem Buch Getting Real (http://www.amazon.de/Getting-Real-Smarter-Successful-Application). Nach der To-Do-Liste kommt jetzt die Projektmanagementsoftware? So so, um Euer nächstes Projekt zu “innovieren” müsst Ihr nur weiterblättern ;-)

    Ja, Ihr seid schon echte Unternehmer ;-) Eure Kampagne ist doch voll behindert…

  • 103 days ago

    Chris says

    Hi,

    I consider this page ridiculous for several reasons:

    1. Whats the point of this at all? The text contains as much information as a politican speech – nice to read but of no value

    2. Nearly half of the startups listed in the map are copycats. Examples: sponsorpay, wooga, aka aki, buddy bear, sofa tutor and so forth…

    3. What’s the matter with copycats? If it wasn’t for the ignorant US companies, which consider europe and the rest of the world as neglectable, there wouldn’t be a chance for a copycat at all. Furthermore the european and in particular the German internet world would be out-dated big time, if it wasn’t for founders who adapt innovative ideas to local markets.

    4. Even the founder of this ridiculous initiative 6Wunderkinder is in some way or another nothing than a copycat with good marketing. What have you invented so far? A task management list? Well I can name you hundereds of task management lists that were created before yours. So the Wunderlist is nothing more than a copycat with evolution on the product.

    Summing up I come to the conclusion that this initiative and this page is only one more Marketing Gag for 6Wunderkinder in order to get attention.

    Best
    Chris

  • 99 days ago

    Chris Förster says

    Klasse Idee! Macht weiter so!

  • 99 days ago

    Ricardo Sousa says

    Hey there Chris,

    Let me try to address your questions and concerns:

    1) The goal to make startup founders start companies that compete on a global scale with innovative products, be in terms of business model, features or makret reach.

    2) All the startups present on the map present, in some way or another, a different, innovative approach to their markets and are (trying to) compete on a global scale. That said, at least from where we stand, they are not copycats.

    3) We just believe creating something new, or at least significantly better will pay up better in the future for the German and the European market. The US companies buy the Europe ones, not the other way around and there is a reason for that… until now :)

    4) although we appreciate your feedback, we think Wunderlist adds something on top of all the other to-do list apps. And that is why, in our opinion, over 1 million users chose our app to manage their daily tasks. We’re beating with all those other apps in a global scale. We believe everything is a remix of something else. But we also believe you’ve to be innovative either in features, market aproach, design or business model. Anyway what we all want is to Berlin to become a central hub for innovate, game-changing companies.

    Thanks for stopping by thought. Although we don’t share the same view, I truly appreciate your time for commenting on our post and sharing ideas.

    Cheers,
    Ricardo

  • 98 days ago

    brainOnaut says

    so, ricardo, and what the heck *is* actually the great “something” which is “add” to Wunderlist that make its different and better than “all the other to-do list apps”?

    cuold you PLEASE specific & not so over-the-top-cool-hype-misty?

  • 98 days ago

    brainOnaut says

    but what really pisses me of, is this:

    “Anyway what we all want is to Berlin to become a central hub for innovate, game-changing companie.”

    bullshit! you want money & success and don´t you deny that! i´m from berlin, and some idiots, who think they have 2 be the masters of the universe with the illusion of berlin as the hottest city on earth, which´s goal it is, to conquer this nice city with some shitty-hype-net-stuff, so that all the rich f*****s of this planet have to come her and destroy the neighborhood, well, i dont like it, and not because some people here wanna make a nice living with there own stuff and earn some mony with it, no, its because you are so F*****N arrogant and meaningless in your speech above, like said in german “nur heisse luft”. we already have enough of PR-ego-idiots in the town, and i do NOT appreciate what you do here, cause in my opinion its JUST hype 4 money. sure, do what ever you want, everbody has the right to be on a place on earth in his decision, but dont you think the people here are that stupid that they didnt see the shit in front of them…

  • 94 days ago

    Bankerin says

    Zuerst haben die Amis deutsche Ideen mit viel Geld kopiert, und zur Marktreife entwickelt (Transistor, Computer, Rakete etc.).
    .
    Jetzt kopieren die Deutschen Ideen der Amis. Ist doch ausgleichende Gerechtigkeit ;-).

  • 77 days ago

    Marc Penkala says

    Hey guys,

    this is such a nice article ;) the anti-copycat revolution is on! We’d love to be on that Start-up monitor, since we see our company and the idea behind it as a new and innovative idea, solving a real problem for small and mid-sized companies! Check us out: http://tinyurl.com/co9e4op

    Berlin rocks with it’s outstanding and innovative ENTREPRENEURS!

  • 50 days ago

    Christian says

    Eure Aktion scheint ja leider bei dem ein oder anderen Inkubator nicht so toll angekommen zu sein ;-)

  • 38 days ago

    ccfl halos says

    Berlin stand up!. cool city i been there a bunch of times

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